Is it too late to get out of Architecture?

Bob Borson —  July 11, 2010 — 111 Comments

John Picacio’s cover art for ‘AGE OF MISRULE: WORLD’S END’

Within the last few months, the number of emails I have received from people asking whether or not they should get out of architecture has been staggering. Equally surprising are the emails I receive that ask for direction on whether or not they should go into the field of architecture. The answer to both questions is easy –


For some people, the first question I ask them – the ender question, is always the same:

“Why do you want to be an architect?”

If the answer is I have always wanted to be an architect, I move on to the next few questions. A person’s motivation for becoming an architect is singularly important. I went to college to become an architect while my friends simply went to college. My resolve and dedication towards becoming an architect was tempered by many all-nighters, 207 credit hours (187 required for my degree), no fraternity for me – nobody who graduated from the University of Texas School of Architecture the same time as I did was in a fraternity (or sorority) – you didn’t have the time.

It was hard to get to where I am at right now and the people who were doing it because they thought it would be cool, for the money, or some other reason other than ‘I have always wanted to be an architect” didn’t make it. If there is something else out there calling to you, architecture probably isn’t for you. I haven’t regretted my decision ever.


Sure, there have been loads of times when I wished I didn’t work as much as I do, made more money; I even get tired of the ladies who are “architect groupies ” following me around. It’s tough but I have always wanted to be an architect.

This is a portion from an email I recently received which actually got me thinking about this post. The person who sent this I know loves to design and thinks about it all the time. It’s how she spends her free time, she travels to locations and looks at the buildings, she tracks down designers in these locations and goes and meets them.

I really love this stuff, but know that I might have problems working for clients. I can see my temperament not quite matching up with that process. I’m a bit stubborn. And also impatient.

It’s hard, I always wanted to be an artist, and now I can’t figure out how to be a designer.

The traits that she describes won’t keep her from becoming an architect or designer – in fact, I would also suggest that these are important traits that any successful designer should have. Also, if her (your) stubbornness and impatience are so uncontrollable as to be a real problem, she’ll have issues in any profession other than ‘Hermit’. In my response email to her, I included a list of quality architecture programs near her and should she decide to pursue a Master’s degree in architecture, I think she’ll do really well.

As to the emails that are asking if they should get out out of architecture – that one is more difficult to address. Architects aren’t the only professionals that are suffering right now. In my mind, it’s similar to changing jobs because you don’t like someone where you are working – not a real good reason if it’s the only one because you probably won’t like someone at the next job either.

I still like to try and find out why a person who has gone through the process to become an architect is thinking about leaving. Have your motivations for being an architect changed? Is it circumstantial? Maybe it’s simply that you want to make more money or you simply hate the job that you do. I can appreciate why someone would like to make more money but are you worth more money doing what you currently do? For example, in my circumstance, I am well paid for a 10 person residential firm considering my name isn’t on the front door. If I wanted to be paid more, my first couple of possible moves would involve looking at larger firms or more commercially focused production firms, not becoming a personal injury lawyer. For me it would be about trying to find a balance and still continue practicing architecture, not changing professions.

I’ve always been pretty good at shooting the bull and have been told I would have been awesome at sales. The very idea of selling anything just to be selling anything would literally make me shrivel up and die. To my way of thinking, I would be better served by investing ALL of my time and resources into winning the lottery before selling paper or plastic o-rings. While both would probably ruin me and force me into living in a cardboard refrigerator box in some alley, going into sales would probably add “crazy” and “pavement licker” to my resume.

When trying to select an appropriate image for this post, my mind started wandering a bit and it landed on John Picacio. John and I went to UT Architecture School together and we both spent time in Europe traveling together in 1990. John and I were never all that close but even 20 years later I still remember John’s sketches; they were ridiculously good. I still see one sketch in particular in my mind’s eye. John and I were in Siena, Italy and John was drawing the Piazza del Campo and he was using the white of the paper as much as his sketch pen to bring the buildings to life. Unbelievable. We lost touch after awhile but I always thought he was so good at drawing, why would he be an architect? Apparently John came to the same conclusion and is a internationally recognized and award winning illustrator.

And I say good for him.

John could always draw better than the people teaching our drawing classes and he figured out that this was something he would rather do than pursue a career in architecture and it’s worked out pretty well for him I’d say. So if you’re interested in becoming an architect because it’s all you’ve ever wanted to do than I would heartily urge you to continue on towards your goal. If you want to become an architect for the groupies, money and fast cars, you might want to reevaluate your options. I’m not suggesting that it can only be one or the other but if you’re already unsure, you’ve got one of the more difficult roads in front of you. It isn’t great for me right now but I’m terrible and I’m pretty awesome *Air Punch*

What would you say to someone contemplating a change? Things will get better but will it be worth sticking around? Doctor’s are starting to run into problems but we’ll always need them. Lawyer’s have their issues too, but unlike architects who are working themselves towards irrelevancy, at least Lawyer’s make it so we can’t get rid of them. Architecture defines me and I wouldn’t like to have to envision myself doing something else – but what about the people who don’t know? What would you tell them?

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  • Alpha

    architecture is an omniscient profession that’s why i admire those who really succeed on this field. this is the only degree i know that on its basic level, one has to significantly know history, laws (national and international) , physical and practical sciences, logic, mathematics and psychology combined with a significant amount of spatial creativity, and art theories.

  • Alpha

    architecture is a glamorous profession. with that i mean, you have to be really famous, or even an offspring of a famous architect in order to have higher success probability in architecture profession. as an architect, i would say, this path has been my biggest regret in life, which i just realized on my 4th year in the college. architecture has been my catalyst for developing an irrational hate towards art, which has been my inclination before i took the damn degree.

    the amount of psychological stress this profession is giving is significantly outstanding compared to other professions, i would shamelessly claim that. why? because we think endlessly without a specific uniform, universally accepted solution and goal. i have a hard time knowing when to stop. this profession just have to many answers for one simple problem and people have different takes on each. no architect in this world has ever been not criticized even those who are in the pritzker. this profession is becoming toxic for my personal development.

  • Nicolas Paul Contavelis

    Happy that by chance saw on that interesting blog since also I took my architecture degree from UT Austin in 1988.
    Funny that most of the architects have the same concerns even while practicing in different countries. I presently work as an architect/ construction manager in Lebanon and the middle east region.
    Unfortunately architecture is considered as an art produced mainly by drawings thus hard to give it a value , like a painting. Still it is a beautiful profession but in my view to enjoy it would be great to look at it more as a hobby.
    The key is to try to complement architecture with an other profession like contracting to arrive to design and built, wish is becoming a trend and an added value to the clients , as a single office in charge of design and contracting.
    Another option that i am presently looking into but not sure if practical and if profitable, is to look at psychology. Thinking about it architects have common aspects with psychology since from school years we have been educated to analyse our design related to the occupants using it.
    They are different specialization like Environmental Psychology ,even though i am afraid that it is more theory studies than practical and no demand to get employed in that field.
    Another option would be engineering psychology, but than not really related to architecture since it has to do with the study of objects and applications but still requiring a design mind wish we have.
    Anyhow will explore these options when i will come to Austin in 2 months.

    Any thoughts about it ?

  • Nicolas Paul Contavelis

    Happy that by chance saw on that interesting blog since also I took my architecture degree from UT Austin in 1988.
    Funny that most of the architects have the same concerns even while practicing in different countries. I presently work as an architect/ construction manager in Lebanon and the middle east region.
    Unfortunately architecture is considered as an art produced mainly by drawings thus hard to give it a value , like a painting. Still it is a beautiful profession but in my view to enjoy it would be great to look at it more as a hobby.
    The key is to try to complement architecture with an other profession like contracting to arrive to design and built, wish is becoming a trend and an added value to the clients , as a single office in charge of design and contracting.
    Another option that i am presently looking into but not sure if practical and if profitable, is to look at psychology. Thinking about it architects have common aspects with psychology since from school years we have been educated to analyse our design related to the occupants using it.
    They are different specialization like Environmental Psychology ,even though i am afraid that it is more theory studies than practical and no demand to get employed in that field.
    Another option would be engineering psychology, but than not really related to architecture since it has to do with the study of objects and applications but still requiring a design mind wish we have.
    Anyhow will explore these options when i will come to Austin in 2 months.

    Any thoughts about it ?

  • Carpeverde

    I am happy to be an architect, but there have certainly been some rough patches (like the current one) that truly test my resolve. I too, graduated from UT/Austin with a Bachelors of Architecture (in 1976) and between there and here worked in firms before and after licensure in 1982, teaching in the Architecture Department at San Antonio College part time for 22 years, and launching and re-launching my sole proprietorship. There was a major side trip as I was developing the family of programs for Build San Antonio Green (residential green building program) and another two-year exercise in developing five Green Initiatives courses for Palo Alto College. Those diversions further convinced me that I’m a twenty-four by thirty-six person and not an eight-and-a-half by eleven guy. My Palo Alto position was cut in 2012 due to a change in administration and I found myself starting up my solo firm again. By that time, I was 59 and not likely to be picked up by an established firm. It’s been challenging since, but I’ve been able to scrape by. I am NOT giving up on my choice to remain in architecture, but I’ve been working toward introducing innovative ideas to solve some of the major problems in affordable housing, public and private. I found it is imperative to be able to discover and enter into new facets of design and planning with enthusiasm. I echo your thoughts regarding architects or young interns seriously examine what is driving them (if not at least being aware there is still a “drive”). Thank you for an engaging and informative blog. I look forward into looking into more as time allows.

  • Heather

    I stumbled across this blog in hopes of finding words of wisdom. I have my 5 year Architecture degree, worked in the career for 10 years before finding myself laid-off and downsized a few times. I eventually took a job in a parallel field just to provide benefits and income for my family, and have been here for about a year and a half now. I don’t love it, but the hours are flexible, they allow working remotely and my family knows what the heck I look like. BUT, I am losing my CAD/Design/REVIT/Code.. you-name-it skills, and wondering if I will ever have the nerve to jump back out into Architecture again. I am 1/4 of the way into my licensing exam, and wondering if I am wasting my time and money. I once had a passion for Architecture, but after being downsized and replaced with a fresh-out-of-the-box college grad who could be paid less and work longer hours one too many times, I don’t know if I have any passion left. I am an in-between Architect. Not seasoned and licensed, and not new and mold-able. I feel like I am stuck in a rut. Afraid to jump back in the rat race, and afraid of losing everything I learned and am still paying for. I never realized leaving Architecture could be so emotionally straining. Think long and hard before you leave.. because coming back is very very difficult.

    • Bob Borson

      Heather – I am personally asking you to come back. The economy and timing of things have changed and there will be years and years before the next downturn. If you were in Dallas, I would say “come on down to my office and let’s have a chat.”

      Come back.

      • Heather

        After re-reading this a few dozen times, I’ve jumped off the fence and signed up for my next exam. I don’t want to just sit and think ‘what if’ for the next 10 years, but I also want to be more prepared and marketable when I dive back in.
        The commute from Austin to Dallas would be a bit much, but I really appreciate your words. Cheers!

  • CHilke

    Let’s be honest, unless you have rich parents, you are an idiot to want to become an architect. I’m 41, licensed, but since I don’t have a Master’s degree I’m apparently unemployable. I currently can’t stand the place I work, both the job and the city, and have no prospects of career advancement despite a license and nearly 2 decades in the profession.

    The thought of sinking myself heavily into debt again (even if I could just drop out of the workforce for 2 whole years) for a profession which has hardly any jobs left is not exactly appealing to me. Just wait until the next financial crisis hits (and it will). This “it defines me ever since I was 2” nonsense is a nice luxury if mommy and daddy are footing the bill. It seems like most architects don’t even need to work for a living, they just coast on their trust funds and then use if to build their dream home that gets featured in all the magazines. Since all their peers are rich, there are always clients. For the rest of us, we are little better than galley slaves. Where I work has all of the drudgery, sociopathic bosses, Machiavellian politics, forced camaraderie, corporate doublespeak, impossible deadlines and unreasonable client demands, of any corporate job with no possibility of leaving. Face it, most of you will be lucky to design an outhouse. Stop dreaming and come back to the real world. Selling [false] hope is what America does best.

    • Bob Borson

      I wonder if your attitude is playing a part in the misery you’ve painted?
      I am sorry that things are going so poorly for you but some of your comments are ludicrous. Mommy and Daddy aren’t footing the bills for any architects I know (and I know a lot of architects).

      Whenever I here from people that there’s no work or they can’t find a job, I think of two things :
      1. They live in the middle of no where, or
      2. aren’t as good at their job as they think.

      Just about every firm I know in Dallas is hiring, maybe you need a change of scenery.

      • Markitect

        I agree with you Bob,

        I’m turning 37 this year & have run my own building design firm for the last 8 years and have been in the industry for 20 years. I’m also currently studying my Bachelor Of Applied Science – Architecture through online studies at Curtin Universtity in Australia. While it’s a lot of hard work fitting both in & a lot of hours needed to keep on top of both if the desire & passion is there anything is possible… Add to that I’m also raising a family & still find timeto spend with them.

        I’m not daunted by the “will I find work” mainly because I already have work in my own business & am very much looking forward to the day when I receive my qualifications.



    • Tom Rogers

      45, BSAS (4 year degree architecture degree); no license; MBA in Management; menber of AIBD and NCBDC certified designer. Work for a residential builder for 13 years and in residential sector for entire career. Had 3 layoffs in early 2000’s.

      No pity. No blame. Work hard and enjoy what you do and where you do it or find a place where you do. Own your future. Oh, and by the way…hugely in dept.

    • Sal Paradise .

      No doubt there is a class system at work. People who merely trade hours for dollars are – a dime a dozen. Architects are a dime a dozen and so someone working his or her way up and through life has to contend with that atmosphere. You are a licensed architect so your skills aren’t sub par. I have had to deal with rich older well connected architects and they are on a whole different level financially,yet with worse skills.

    • CHilke

      1. Of course everyone always goes to sour grapes, especially in America where the cult of personal fault is part of our secular religion. For the record, I am an associate at one of largest A/E firms in the country. I worked my way through school (the only person in my class to do so). And yes, I did pass the licensing exams (and CDT and LEED BD+C). But you’re right, I’m sure it’s just sour grapes and I’m not very good at what I do. Well, I know I’m not a good political person or a strident workaholic, so maybe you’re right. Define what it means to be good at architecture? Design skills? Construction knowledge? Management skills?

      2. I live in Milwaukee, WI. Is that a remote area? Maybe. I can count the job opening in architecture here in a year on one hand.

      3. I did not mean to imply that architects have their careers subsidized by their parents, but if you do not have significant familial wealth it is nearly impossible to pursue architecture. I too know a lot of architects, and all of them come from upper middle-class to upper-class families. This also provides a safety net in terms of the frequent layoffs and periods of unemployment, a luxury Americans of poorer backgrounds (such as myself) do not have.

      4. The degree pecking order is extreme. If you cannot pony up the money to get an advanced degree or the right degree, you have very little control over your career. It’s the trap everyone faces – you are overqualified for all but a certain number of jobs, and those jobs have people who have a lot more degrees and connections and experience going after them.

      5. Health care is keeping the field on life support. As I was recently told at an interview (which I did not get), any firm over 100 people has half their work in architecture. This is what I work in, and IMHO health care architecture is miserable (budgets, deadlines, complexity, etc.). It is also hyper-specialized. If you’re in it, good luck getting out, If you’re not in it, good luck getting in. Everybody wants someone who’s already done it before.

      6. Architects seem particularly susceptible to the sunk costs fallacy – The fallacy prevents you from realizing the best choice is to do whatever promises the better experience in the future, not which negates the feeling of loss in the past.

      7. Given the above, I’m not excited about sinking thousands more dollars and years into it. Ponder this story from The Onion:,49/

  • Jonnel

    I’m a 1st yr Master of Architecture student studying in New Zealand. I initially chosen architecture because it fits into the current interest I had in high-school when we were ask to chose early on.

    To say the least, my interest has changed from when I was 14 to now that I am 27. Travelled around, had a break from school after I got my 3yr Bachelors degree, now I’m back at it. Did “sales” for work, customer service, managing restaurants, and did some freelance design work while I took a year off in 2012. Still I came back to Architecture and my “need” to be an Architect. That sounds weird to people, especially to the ones close to me, ’cause they’d always say that I should just be in government if I want to make a change, and I’d be a shoe-in for that.

    But I believe in the profession, regardless with whatever people say that architects are growing into irrelevance. I simply don’t believe that. The young’s optimism I guess (I know 27 isn’t that young), but there you go. It’s a matter of establishing that relevance again, not by sitting in the ivory tower that most of my seniors seems to do but engaging the public and enlightening them to the value of actual architecture.

    I think I’ve ranted enough. I just wanted to add my two-cents on this, as the relevance of the profession is, I think, is dependent on its practitioners. Bob said it, lawyers seem to find a way to be relevant, why can’t an intellectual group like architects figure one out?

  • Sal Paradise .

    I know some architects who have lost their idealism, or have just suffered too much such that it is no longer something positive. I am one. Still in it, got licensed in the 90’s ..but after 2008 it was never the same and the pleasure was not worth the pain. I loved my clients, love the projects. but… is like all my hard work never really mattered. Now, its just a job and architects are a dime a dozen and everybody knows it. . Who knows, maybe when and if the economy gets better. then the profession will change and I will change for the better as well. But if I had to guess, I’d say it won’t.

  • Peter Alex Dreier

    Don’t look down on sales, Bob. It supports our household quite nicely, I love doing it, and it leaves me with the time to still be an architect on the side.

    • Bob Borson

      I’m not down on sales, I’m down on doing something you hate.

  • Sam Gordon

    I am a 20 year old rising senior at a small college which offers a liberal arts degree in “Architectural Studies.” Ever since I have been a kid I have wanted to study architecture. However, over the past year or so I seem to have lost my drive and my passion for the field. I can’t really explain why.

    Anyways, I am soon wrapping up my undergraduate studies in a concentration that I no longer want to pursue. Quite frankly, i feel like I am screwed. The only plan I have in the future is to apply to the City Year program for the year after I graduate (2015-2016). I enjoy working with kids (I have been a camp counselor for several summers in the past), but I have no desire to become a full-time teacher. This is my current plan of action.

    I thought I’d just throw this all out there and join the comment wall. Any and all advice is welcome!

    • Sal Paradise .

      Find another field – engineering, if you can. Good luck kid.

    • Michele Grace Hottel

      i think that any job you are fortunate enough to be offered, you should take. then do research on possible career choices and schools that offer them.. you are young and have time to decide on what you want to do with your life, but it is easier to meet people and make those decisions (do i really not want to teach, do i want to do something else or am i just not sure about the future?) while you are in a working environment. (i have a 20 year old daughter in her 3rd year of college)

  • Dena

    hi Bob, i am 42 and i have my architecture degree. i have been successful in positions with my architecture degree, even my salary, but i have struggled for my licensure over the years. i am still unlicensed but am working and happy. i am also still pursuing my license…i think not getting my license would be like quitting School on the last day of your senior year…it just seems stupid to not do it. like i said, getting my license has been a challenge and i have found myself wondering a few times if this was just the universes way (or gods way) of telling me that architecture isn’t for me cause no matter what i did i was struggling to pass. then i finally passed all of my exams, then NCARB came back and told me that they would not license me due to the amount of time it took me to take them. i missed the 5 year rolling clock by a few months and i have some major life interruptions during that time, but to NCARB, that does not matter. So here i am, 42, still studying for my exams even though i have passed them all. and believe me, i ask my self often if it is meant to be for me. But i can tell you i have wanted to be an architect since i was 4 years old. i did not even know what it was called at that age, i just pointed to a building and said i wanted to do that. i was once asked in an interview why i chose to be an architect and the truth is i don’t feel like i chose to be one, i feel like it chose me cause i have known from such an early age this is what i wanted to do. So if i wanted to do this for so long and i know it is something that i want to do without a doubt, why oh why is it so hard for me to get licensed?? All I can do is use my stubbornness, my tenacity and my endurance to keep going and know that one day, I will reach my goal. but Believe me…i ask myself that question all the time due to my circumstances. and i always come back to the same answer…YES I want to be an architect. it is all i now and all i have ever wanted to do.

  • Gicu

    Hi…I’m 24 and I have a master’s degree in Architecture (I graduated last november). I love this profession and I have always wanted to be an architect, but sometimes I would like to be something else (maybe an engineer?!) because in this period it’s very hard to find a job. There are a lot of “not paid” internship but no job. I’m motivated, capable, an hard-worker and I finished my university with the best results, but this is the situation and also my friends have the same problems…
    So raghu really do you want to become an architect?!

  • raghu

    Hi Bob i’m 24 and i have a degree in electronics and communication,i m working for IT industry,i’m good at maths i never wanted become an engineer who sits in front computer all day,i always loved nature i always wanted to become an architect i want to study architecture,how long does it takes for me to become an architect ??

    • Bob Borson

      I’m not sure what part of the world you are in, but in the US, you need a 5 year professional degree or a 4+2 Masters degree. Then you have a 3 year intern period that you have to complete so at a minimum, you are looking at 8 or 9 years before you could become a licensed architect.

  • Worried Student

    Currently, I’m in my third year, second semester of architecture school. Within the past few years here, I’ve come to realize that I don’t want to become a licensed architect. After reading the comments below many, many times, working at an architecture firm is beginning to appear more off-putting to me (although, I have not had an internship yet, so I still do not know how an architecture firm works firsthand). Now, I’m more interested in the different paths people take with an architecture degree since I now know I don’t want to become an “architect”. Or “starchitect”.

    My concern is whether or not to stay with the 4-year program or 5-year program (I’m currently in the 5-year program). I didn’t want to switch majors entirely since I’m already getting close to my 4th year, which could be my senior year if I chose to switch to the 4-year program. Also, I agree with Archi’s End’s comment. The skills I’ve gained here in architecture school are irreplaceable and can be used in many different fields.

    But my worry is whether or not a Bachelor of Science in architecture is seen as a viable degree. Now my interests are seeming to lean towards marketing and advertising (becoming a creative director one day is a big goal for me), but would potential employers even understand why I have an architecture degree? Is that degree too left-field for the paths I want to take? Should I have changed my major entirely anyway and then stay in an expensive school for another 3 years??

    I don’t know, I guess I’m too worried trying to envision my future and worrying if I’ll ever be able to support myself. I just need to hear from people who have changed their career paths from architecture and have succeeded more from it. I know this post is from a years ago but it seems like people are slowly commenting on it still! Please keep the comments coming, they really help.

    • L

      Hi, I’m not sure if this will prove helpful, but I just wanted to offer you my 2 cents… I am in currently in a 4 year architecture program now, but I do feel that a 4 year arch program (which technically isn’t an arch degree) is not enough if you want to pursue architecture.

      However, you mentioned that you could graduate soon with just a 4 year program. Especially since you are unsure if you want to pursue architecture, I think it would be best for you to graduate with the 4 year degree, so you do not prolong your undergrad studies (if I’m calculating this correctly, you still have 3-4 years to go in the 5 year program since you’re in your second semester of arch school?) This will mostly be some sort of B.A degree… if you do decide you want to do architecture, you can continue with a master’s degree (M.Arch), which will be an additional 2-3 years.

      IMHO, and if I’m reading your post correctly, it would be more time conscientious to pursue a 4 year B.A + grad school (if you do later decide you want to do architecture) than to do the B.Arch program (which will also take you 3-4 more years).

      Of course, I’m sure others with more experience and expertise can weigh in on this, but I did find myself in a similar situation to yours just a while ago, and this was what I came up with :-)

  • N

    Arrogant, egotistic, wanker!

  • Jurgen jr

    love evrything bout Art & Architect. but to bad i dont now how to desing & others. but im still gonna take this course next year. need a advice for that. Thanks again

  • 10 year-old architect

    As a 10-year-old architect, I have great concern for the architecture industry. The way it is treating the interns, I can almost say for sure, that the profession will disappear in twenty years or will get emerged into another industry. Many people I’ve graduated with either have already quit or making plans to quit. It is sad. But in this “mo money” capitalism, design is not that important.

    • Bob Borson

      I can’t say your wrong, I just hope you are

  • Janie Till

    I am starting college tomorrow as a freshman and have always been fascinated with the design of buildings. Surely that isn’t awe inspiring to anyone in the field already and I’m considered to be just another wet behind the ears child who has stumbled her way blindly through highschool and right into the real world. I can be honest and say that I have no experience in this field whatsoever, many people before me have already taken graphing classes and perfected their skill. I however, am behind and incredibly worried that I am about to make a fool of myself but if anything else, I am determined. I am just really concerned that my dedication to this particular field will prove to be all for naught? Am I getting myself in “serious trouble” here or…(I’m aware you’re not an advice column but I think your words to be probably the most informative being that you are already IN the field.)

    • Bob Borson

      I don’t think you have anything to worry about. Thinking back to my freshman year in architecture school, it seems that half of the time the professors spent was trying to get us to “un-learn” all the things we had brought with us coming out of high school. Most programs want you to learn their style so going in as a blank slate might actually work out in your favor.

  • lardavis1951

    Where are these groupies you mentioned?! How did I miss out on this perk?

    • Bob Borson

      It’s really a hit-or-miss but being a good dancer doesn’t hurt.